Over the last two years, the world has witnessed atrocities beyond imagination. The killing of approximately 1,200 people by Hamas in Israel on October 7, 2023, was followed by a genocidal war in which the Israeli Defense Forces have, according to recent reports, killed over 67,000 Palestinians — nearly a third of them children.
Israel’s military has damaged or destroyed more than 90% of homes in Gaza and left countless people with life-altering physical and psychological injuries. Shocking as this is, the Israeli army’s actions in Gaza have been met with overwhelming silence or even support from Western liberal democracies, which often portray themselves as champions of peace and a rules-based international order. Having warned of this potential early on, in this conversation Prof. Omer Bartov argues the Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and criticizes Western leaders for their complicity.
The podcast was recorded on November 5, 2025. The data refer to the time of recording. Since then, the number of deaths may have increased.
Omer Bartov is a Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Brown University in Providence, United States.
The interview was conducted by Konstantin Kipp. Lilit Hakobyan edited the audio file.
